Below you’ll find an interview with American influencer Sofie’s World.
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Step into Sofie's world: a candid conversation with YouTube's favourite Italian lifestyle vlogger
In today’s Intermezzo I had the pleasure of talking to Sofia, better known as Sofie’s World on YouTube. She shares her refreshing perspective on moving to Italy, learning the Italian language, how Italian fashion influences her wardrobe, and more! You’ll soon notice she lives and breathes ‘the simple life’ and knows how to make even the unforeseen events work in her favour. Happy reading!
Congrats on moving back to Italy, Sofia! On a scale of 1 to 10, how overwhelming does it feel to build a life in Italy again?
“Thank you so much! I’ve been back since February, and I would say in the beginning it was definitely a 10, but now that I’m settled in my own apartment and not living in Airbnb’s anymore, I think I’m down to a 4. The first time I moved to Italy, I went to Rome after having been in a long distance relationship with my now husband Emilio. We lived there for a couple of years, then moved back to the US for work, and now moved back to Florence, Italy again. Since my situation was so different the first time I moved here and I had so much more free time on my hands, I think I forgot about the emotional and physical toll moving puts on you. I just started a new role as a PR manager for Sunday Riley, the skincare brand I work for. In retrospect I should’ve probably taken some time off from my full-time job to make the move run a bit more smoothly.”
You live and learn, right? In all the hustle and bustle, have you been able to explore Florence?
“Yes. I find Florence to be extremely walkable, so even if I’m busy, I get to explore new places every day. My dog Leo is the perfect excuse to get out of the apartment at the end of the day and go for a quick walk. I’d say I’ve seen a lot already, but there’s still a lot to discover, especially restaurant- wise!”
Speaking of... how do you go about making friends in a new city? Have you been able to go out for dinner with old friends from Rome?
“Yes and no. Most of the people I met in Rome don’t even live in Italy anymore, so I can’t just give them a call and meet up for an aperitivo. I met most of my old friends through Emilio as well, so it was great to get to know them, but they weren’t really my friends, you know? Even though I work remotely, I still getto go on business lunches and dinners for my job. I meet people that way too, but of course you’re not going to have a deep connection with everyone you meet. It took me a long time to realise that!
I do think I’m in a different stage in my life now, and I’m a lot busier too. Whenever I get free time – which is rare – I prefer to spend it with people I really click with it. I’m an extroverted introvert, so when I’m out and about I’m very social and talkative, but I also need to unwind by myself, with my husband or a close friend after a busy workday.”
I think you're right, maybe Rome is great for extroverts while introverts thrive in a city that still has that authentic small-town vibe. What do you think are the biggest differences between Rome and Florence?
“I would say Rome is a lot more spread out than Florence is. To get from point A to point B in Rome, I’d need a car or some sort of public transportation that typically doesn’t show up. Here in Florence, I can be a lot more efficient. I’m also in a better place mentally, since I have a job which takes away the stress of finding one here. Honestly, I like Florence better so far, but I could be in the honeymoon phase still!”
I'm glad you like it! Surely, you've noticed differences between Italy and the US as well?
“Oh, for sure! It depends on the context though, are we talking groceries, taxes, bureaucracy? The thing I miss most about the US is the efficiency. If I had to run errands in the US, I’d hop in my car, go to five different places in an hour, fill mytrunk and unload it into my garage. In Italy, not so much. Here I have to plan my week around the errands I need to run, because this place is only open on this day, and only at this specific time. There are no one-stop shops here. At the same time, this shows you how go-go-go our American mentality is. Back in Rome I used to be frustrated about how everything took me so long, now I’ve really learned to appreciate slow living. In a way, being forced to go on walks makes me more present. I love people watching, having lunch outside with my dog. In the States I was pretty much living out of my car and never took the time to enjoy these things.”
Would you say not owning a car has changed your life for the better?
“Back in Rome we did have a car, but for now we don’t really need one in Florence. Unfortunately, Italy doesn’t allow Americans to transfer their driver’s license, so that’s my little project for 2023: getting an Italian driver’s license. All the Americans I’ve met in Italy have told me that getting their Italian driver’s license was the biggest accomplishment of their entire life. Keep in mind we have to take it in Italian too. It’s just one of those things that makes me shrug my shoulders and say ‘Oh well, I guess this is just Italy’. In the rare event that we do need a car, we’ll get a rental or a taxi. There’s always a way around these things.”
Right? A small shift in mindset can get you places! What's one piece of advice you'd give to people who want to move to Italy?
“I’d say do your research and ask yourself how badly you want this. Figure out how you can stay in Italy long-term, because they make the process of staying here longer than ninety days very complicated for Americans. Many people have this very romanticised idea of Italy because that’s what they see on social media. And while that probably makes up about 80% of my reality right now, there’s also that nerve-racking 20% of dealing with Italian bureaucracy. My life here is not just drinking cappuccini outside and enjoying the dolce far niente. Honestly, the first time I got here, I felt like I was blindsided. In a way I’m lucky, because I have dual citizenship since I’m Italian by descent. Plus, I’m married to an Italian and have a good base of the Italian language.”
No need to be so humble, your Italian is close to fluent! How did you learn it, and how did you maintain it so well while you were in the US?
“Thank you so much for saying that. I really appreciate it, because to be totally transparent with you, some days I feel like I’m just blocked. It’s really frustrating if you can’t communicate fully. My story about how I learned Italian is quite interesting. My grandfather was originally from Rome and he had a house out in Tuscany. I grew up summering with him and he would speak to me in a mix of languages, Italian being one of them. So I grew up with the ear of it, but I didn’t speak Italian conversationally. However, for some reason I’ve always known in my soul that I’d live in Italy eventually.
During my time at university, I minored in Italian. When I graduated, I took classes to maintain it and then I met my husband. Still, I didn’t feel like I was fluent. Back when we lived in Rome, I took an intensive immersive Italian course. It was eight hours a day, five days a week. I didn’t have a job, so might as well spend my time wisely, right?
I also learned a lot through Emilio’s family. He was travelling for work often, and when he was away, I’d spend lots of time with his family who’s from Calabria, in the South of Italy. I’d find myself trying to explain myself, describing things I didn’t know how to say, and making many mistakes along the way. Nowadays, sometimes it’s the other way around! I’ll come up with a word in Italian first, and then in English! Since I’m spending more of my time speaking Italian again, I notice that certain words are dormant in my brain in English.”
Do you have any tips for beginners learning Italian?
“For me, immersion was the way to go. However, I realise that many people just don’t have the ability to do that, so I’d recommend Italian classes with an online tutor. Or you could watch TV shows you’ve seen many times with Italian subtitles. Since they talk so fast, it’s easier to figure out the Italian part of it, if youdon’t need to worry about the storyline anymore. Watching TV also helps you understand Italian intonation, which as we all know is a big part of speaking Italian! You could even watch an Italian show with English subtitles, then switch over to Italian subtitles after a while. Don’t feel bad for still needing those subtitles, I still use them too! If anything, it teaches you how to write in Italian too. And lastly, I love to listen to Italian music because that really trains my ear as well.”
Have you ever had an aha-moment where speaking Italian just clicked for you?
“I wouldn’t say I’ve had aha-moments, more like little snippets throughout the day where I’m proud of myself for correctly conjugating a verb or knowing when to use the infamous congiuntivo. For work, I need to be able to professionally hold a conversation and when I do, it feels like such a win. But you’re right about not being so hard on myself, I tend to forget fluency and being a native are two different things.”
Exactly! Let's move on to a couple of rapid-fire questions about the Italian lifestyle. Fashion's up first! Has the Italian street style influenced your personal wardrobe?
“Oh my, definitely! I think my wardrobe is becoming more and more Italian. Italian fashion is pretty minimalistic and monochromatic in my opinion. Women here will wear all black, throw on a blazer and look so chique and put together. I’ve learned to embrace that less is more. Lately I’m stepping out of my comfort zone and steering more towards statement pieces, like the more masculine-looking suits. You can make them more feminine by picking a bright colour or spicing them up with nice jewellery. I’ve also drastically toned down my make-up.”
Nice! What's your #1 favourite Italian dish?
“In Italy, and in life, it’s pasta al pomodoro. And I don’t mean pasta with olive oil and little pieces of datterini (cherry tomatoes), I love a good sugo (tomato sauce)! I also don’t mind eating spaghetti, but I’m all about my short pasta, like mezze maniche, farfalle, penne… It’s so good, I could have it every single day!”
Many Italians actually do that!
“I know! Maybe in the US we’re too focused on diet culture. Americans see carbs as a cheat food, but Italians know balance is key. They’re all about where their food is coming from, and they appreciate real flavours. They won’t scale back and will happily enjoy a tiramisu and caffe at the end of a meal. Maybe they can pull it off because their portion sizes are smaller too. It’s not like they have the pranzo de/la domenica (literally: Sunday’s lunch, a big Italian feast to be enjoyed with the whole family) every single day. All things considered, I think Italians eat pretty healthily, actually.”
Agreed. What's your #1 favourite place to travel to in Italy?
“Aaah, that’s a tough question! There are so many! A place that really touched me and that I can’t wait to go back to is Pantelleria. It’s an island between Tunisia and Sicily. The food there is amazing, and the scenery is unlike any place I’ve ever seen before. I would also like to explore more of the Aeolian Islands. Southern Italy really pulls on my heartstrings!”
I'll have to check out Pantelleria, thanks for the recommendation! Let's wrap this up with your #1 favourite phrase in Italian!
“Hah, many of them are probably dialect! Since I learned a lot of my Italian through my husband’s family, sometimes I would pick up words from their dialetto calabrese, without even knowing it wasn’t standard Italian. Then, I would use those terms in day-to-day conversations, and I’d get weird looks from Italians who had no idea what I was saying. I can’t really think of one specific favourite phrase, they’re all part of my vocabulary now so I don’t really think twice about it anymore. Italian has become second nature now, but I will say the Florentine accent still surprises me, and I love listening to it!”
Thank you so much for your time, Sofia! Enjoy exploring the rest of Florence!
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